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Pignut
 Post subject: Headset questions
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:44 am 
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I have just bought a new frame which requires a fsa ce integrated headset.

My question is will any others fit? are all integrated headsets the same?


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TheRookie
 Post subject: Re: Headset questions
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:47 am 
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Bar a tiny difference in stack heights, all integrated are the same, sure it's not SEMI-integrated though?

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Pignut
 Post subject: Re: Headset questions
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:31 pm 
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Oh.... Whats the difference?


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 Post subject: Re: Headset questions
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:18 pm 
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Semi integrated has a mating OD of 44mm and is common on MTBs, integrated started with Campag on roadie stuff, migrated to BMX, is pretty rare on MTBs, mating OD is about 40mm from memory.

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 Post subject: Re: Headset questions
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:34 pm 
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Would you be able to tell from a photo


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TheRookie
 Post subject: Re: Headset questions
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:58 pm 
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Possibly, alternatively what bike and is there a tech spec, or can you measure the diameter of the hole?

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 Post subject: Re: Headset questions
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:11 pm 
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TheRookie wrote:
Bar a tiny difference in stack heights, all integrated are the same, sure it's not SEMI-integrated though?

All integrated headsets are NOT the same.

For starters, there're two different standards: Cane Creek (41.0mm OD, 36/45°, blue seals) and Campy (41.8mm OD, 45/45°, brown seals).
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TheRookie
 Post subject: Re: Headset questions
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:19 pm 
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sfer1 wrote:
TheRookie wrote:
Bar a tiny difference in stack heights, all integrated are the same, sure it's not SEMI-integrated though?

All integrated headsets are NOT the same.

For starters, there're two different standards: Cane Creek (41.0mm OD, 36/45°, blue seals) and Campy (41.8mm OD, 45/45°, brown seals).

Yes but the CC is known as IS2 for a reason.......

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 Post subject: Re: Headset questions
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:37 pm 
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Cane creek is considered regular I.S.
Campy is often called "campy-fit". Not very creative, but to the point.
The o.d. is the easiest to check, as mentioned, cc=41.0mm, campy=41.8.
Cane creek made both kinds, now just does I.S.
An I.S. bearing will fit in a Campy frame (needs some spacing to clear the top cover), a campy bearing will not fit in an I.S. frame. Even so, i avoid putting an i.s. bearing into a campy frame.
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fitty4
 Post subject: Re: Headset questions
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:39 pm 
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I also need a new headset for my 2008 cervelo r3. Will a regular I.S. 41.0mm fit?

I would measure myself but dunno what to measure :noidea:
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TheRookie
 Post subject: Re: Headset questions
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Measure the bore diameter the bearing sits into in the frame.

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 Post subject: Re: Headset questions
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:25 pm 
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TheRookie wrote:
Measure the bore diameter the bearing sits into in the frame.


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ricerocket
 Post subject: Re: Headset questions
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:44 pm 
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Did you buy an On-One frame? I had the same headset spec'd on my Whippet frame.

I used Cane Creek's headset finder to find their equivalent, because I won't run anything FSA if I can help it.
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